Robin

Filename: conversation w_ sands and robin by radna 24 July 2020 (unedited) .WAV
Date: July 24, 2020
Duration: 02:12:07
Speakers: Robin Wassink-Murray, Radna Rumping, Sands Murray-Wassink
Location: The home of Sands and Robin, Swammerdamstraat, Amsterdam
Transcription date: 16/1/2021
Transcribed by: Martha Jager

00:00:32
RR: Where do we start? Well, I do have a start, actually. I would find it interesting to hear how Robin is an actual part of Sands’ work. For example, sometimes you are more present in the background with what you do...

00:00:54
RWM: Yeah, that’s mainly what we're talking about, I think. And of course I do a lot for him. I help him when he has to set things up... That’s a little less now, isn’t it? Now that he has four colleagues he works closely with, of which you are one. That is something different, because that whole show in London, eventually... It used to be always... I actually pretty much set up everything. The technical things when he does a presentation or something, I set those up. That is now no longer necessary, because there are now professional people, thanks to If I Can't Dance [ I Don’t Want To Be Part Of Your Revolution] but that is my biggest influence. Except... But you might better voice that – how I influence you? That of course has to do with what we talk about every day.

00:01:39
Sands Murray-Wassink: Yes how do I always phrase that... We are a team. That's how I always say it: we've been together since November 16, 1996. And yes, I have always seen you as very influential because you have taught me a lot about people and also how to look at art and my own work. Because you... How do you say that? Feet or legs on the ground? You keep my feet on the ground. More

00:00:32
RR: Where do we start? Well, I do have a start, actually. I would find it interesting to hear how Robin is an actual part of Sands’ work. For example, sometimes you are more present in the background with what you do...

00:00:54
RWM: Yeah, that’s mainly what we're talking about, I think. And of course I do a lot for him. I help him when he has to set things up... That’s a little less now, isn’t it? Now that he has four colleagues he works closely with, of which you are one. That is something different, because that whole show in London, eventually... It used to be always... I actually pretty much set up everything. The technical things when he does a presentation or something, I set those up. That is now no longer necessary, because there are now professional people, thanks to If I Can't Dance [ I Don’t Want To Be Part Of Your Revolution] but that is my biggest influence. Except... But you might better voice that – how I influence you? That of course has to do with what we talk about every day.

00:01:39
Sands Murray-Wassink: Yes how do I always phrase that... We are a team. That's how I always say it: we've been together since November 16, 1996. And yes, I have always seen you as very influential because you have taught me a lot about people and also how to look at art and my own work. Because you... How do you say that? Feet or legs on the ground? You keep my feet on the ground.

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